- Paperback: 266 pages
- Publisher: Booksurge Llc (April 28 2003)
- Language: English
- ISBN-10: 1893612007
- ISBN-13: 978-1893612006
Eugene "Gene" Giese |
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CLAIMS He
claims he spent 6 yr in He
claims he led LLRP and SOG teams. He
claims he was the sole survivor of 2 units which each got wiped out. On
the second occasion he became POW which he writes about in his book.
He cites many of the same details you had listed such as being
tortured with thumb screws and being held in a bamboo cage, the B52
strike and being rescued. He
claims operated as a sniper in He
claims he and 3 other Ops did a night jump north of He
claims he and a couple of other Ops snuck into Hai Phong harbor and sat
in the bushes for 2 weeks watching and reporting by secure radio on the
shipping which flowed in and out. He
claims he was a part of the raid on the Son Tay prison camp. He
claims that on his last tour, he led a team of commandos which rescued
pilots who had been shot down. He claims they rescued many pilot and on
6 occasions they got pilots back who had already been taken captive by
the Viet Cong. Gene is currently finishing another book which I think he
said is supposed to be about his experiences rescuing pilots. He
claims he was one of 6 CIA ops who were planted in He
claims that he spent time training the Contras or Sandanistas or
something like that. ============================= Claims POW and SF ================================= 2009 - Continues to pose as a Ranger class #4 1959. Rangers state: "No record in FY 59." =============================================
Hello all on the address list. I don't know all
of you, but your names were included in
several of the messages recently exchanged on Gene Giese.
I feel I owe you an explanation on the Gene
Giese case.
I am Mike McGrath, retired Navy O-6 who happened to
spend almost six years in the Hanoi slammer.
Yes, I got all the torture, no medical
treatment, etc. I was in the middle of the whole mess. I had
187 missions and had a lot of my roommates and friends KIA.
Here's the straight poop on Gene Giese: A while
back I was invited to speak to a combined
group of history students at Regis University, Department of History
and Political Science, Denver, CO. Large auditorium packed
with history students. Gene Giese was
invited, too. I told the professors (Ron Rockway, Dan Clayton,
and Jim Guyer), he was a fraud (POW) but they
allowed him to speak anyway...like most civilian folks, refusing to
believe a man would lie about a thing like that. Since I knew
in advance that Giese would also be there, I
brought all my documentation to prove that he was never reported for
even a single day as MIA/POW. I kept
meticuous notes during his lecture ...and I still have them. Giese
spoke for about 30 minutes, then I spoke for about 30 minutes.
After the lecture, I got the professors together along with Giese
and confronted Giese with my proof. I accused him to his face
of being a liar and a fraud. I told him he should be ashamed
of himself lying to hundreds of college
students (the professors later
that week called the students into an assembly and
apologized for letting a fraud speak to them). Giese lied to me face
to face. I take that very personally.
I served 24 1/2 years as an officer, graduated from
the boat school (USNA), and take our Honor Code seriously. I
take affront at Giese claiming to have been with us as a POW. He
did not earn the honors that my dead classmates (and your dead
comrades) deserve. I was PO'ed then, and I am PO'ed now.
None of the 661 surviving POWs ever heard of him.
Not one government agency (Dept of Defense
Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office, DPMO) has ever heard of
him. He has no documentation or
witnesses. What rock was this low life living under
for the last 28 years? Why did he suddenly decide to become
a "Vietnam POW" now. Maybe he's a
"wannabe."
Giese was sponsored by a LtCol Clarke Brandt, USA MC,
a doctor at Fitzsimmons Army Hospital (Brandt
still lives in the Denver area (Aurora). Brandt said Giese
"must be OK" because he used Giese to
help counsel PTSD patients at the Army Hospital. Giese's POW
experience was the basis of the counseling. Giese had a calming
effect on trauma patients. I told the Doc that he had been lied
to by Giese. Giese was never a POW. The Doc refused to believe
or my evidence.
I do not question Giese on any claim other than his
POW lies. He might well have been in the
Army Special Forces. He might well be a
real hero, a real warrior, an honorable man with his family, and a
model citizen. We'll see. He does have one flaw...he is
a liar and a fraud to claim he was ever a POW
in Vietnam.
Here is a briefing on the claims made by Giese to the
students:
MSgt, USA. Special Forces. Distinguished
Service Cross, 2 Silver Stars, several Purple
Hearts, Three weeks captivity (he told me he couldn't remember the
dates of capture or escape), shot (wounded) in both leg and arm,
taken to Cambodia after capture in NVN, member of an assination team
when captured in NVN, after six hours was pushed in a hole filled
with water...rats swimming around his face...bamboo grate over his
head...only head above water, water was cess pool, nightly beatings
and interrogations (sounds like a B-grade movie). He stuck to
N,R,DOB, SN. On 3rd
day, escaped, ran, 15 minutes but was re-captured,
hit in head with gun butt, spent some nights in pit, some nights
hoisted in a tree in a bamboo cage, sleep deprivation, A NVN Major
was the interrogator who "slid a stainless steel instrument
under his fingernails," the "Major" said he was
trained at Princeton University (USA), he could hear the B-52
strikes hitting up the Ho Chi Mihn Trail, when the B-52s came, his
captors ran west, Giese broke out
of his bamboo cage and ran east. No clothes
(but he also claimed he had a survival saw
hidden in the seam of his pants), he escaped. Says "the
forest provides a multitude of forest delicacies,
lots of good food, fish, insects, he robbed native fishtraps,"
etc. On the 3rd or 4th day after escape, he was in a rice
paddy and heard a helicopter UH1 gunship as it rolled in for the
kill. The crew saw it was an American and picked him up, flew
him to Pleiku. Giese says he had
traveled 250 miles to the south of where he
had been captured (what a guy!). He spent 30 days in
hospital...where he "convinced doctors, begging,
crying...to go back to his unit."
Two days later he walked into his unit, the Major thought
he had been killed. They had notified his parents that he was
KIA. (Right...show me the proof). Giese convinced the Major (Giese
can never remember any names of these characters) to let him stay in
a "TAC." Giese then became a platoon leader in a LLRP
as he "had much to make amends for." He then went to
the
Iron Triangle where he took a hit form a DH18
Claymore mine and took pieces of steel in his
ribs through his back. He was med- evaced
to 1st hospital at Lei Ke. Then went to hospital at Ben Hoa for
major chest surgery. 6 hours of surgery. The Army flew
him to Japan...and the Army flew his family to
Japan to meet him. He weighed 90 lbs.
and he had to gain his weight back to 140 lbs before he could go
back to the states with his family. He concluded,
"I survived 3 weeks as a POW."
Sorry to bother you with this BS story, but I heard
it with my own ears. After the lecture, he could not tell me a
single fact...where captured, who was with
him, who was captured, who was killed, dates, etc. No such
helicopter rescue is recorded by US Millitary, no
after action report supports claim, no morning muster reports
support claim, he can't even remember which unit he was missing
from. Besides, no prisoner captured in NVN was ever taken to
another country like Laos or Cambodia. All POWs
were hog-tied and taken to the Hanoi Hilton.
Security was tight. It's all BS.
We have been home for over 28 years. The POW
list has never changed. We know who we
are...and Gene Giese was never one of us.
Only 28 military men escaped from SVN, and 2 military men escaped
from Laos. He wasn't one of the 30...and they are members
of our organization.
Well, there you have it. I think it is
despicable that a man would lie to those
college students. He might well be a good man in other respects,
but he is a liar in my eyes...and in the eyes of the professors and
the 200 students.
Mike McGrath, Capt USN (Ret), President of NAM-POWs
POW 30 June 67 to 3 March 73
www.nampows.org
(and the list of real POWs is accessible there)
(Please excuse the typos...It's late, I'm tired.)
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Product Description
Product Description
"Vietnam: One Unaccounted For" is a fictionalized version of the author's actual experiences as a U.S. Army, Special Forces/Special Operations soldier during one of his six years in Vietnam. About the Author Gene Giese was born in Pollock, LA and later grew up in New Orleans. Fiercely patriotic, Gene enlisted in the United States Army at the earl age of 17. After several years of specialty training in the areas of intelligence, weapons, demolitions, tactics, and Chinese, Giese a young sergeant but old man by Army standards at 24, was sent to Vietnam. Twenty-eight years varied military service, several tours in Vietnam with Special Operations provided Gene innumerable experiences upon which to draw. After completing a degree in Photo Journalism he now resides in Aurora, CO with his wife of 23 years, Penny. This is his first fiction book. ==================== He and his wife regularly visit a coffee shop in Aurora, CO.
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Gene Giese August 29 at 7:38pm Report8/29/2009 Facebook | Inbox - Rangers lead the W… http://www.new.facebook.com/inbox/?… 1/2 I did attend Ranger School in 1959 and a week before completing the course I broke my back, just a stress fracture, so I was washed out because I could not do all that was required. I always lived my life as it I had completed to school. In my 28-years I served in many places and in many MOSs and yes I have two Bronze Stars w/V and several Purple hearts. My first tour in Vietnam I worked with the ARVN 1st Ranger Battalion as an instructor with MACV. I am sorry that the fact that I lived a lift as if I were a Ranger, because in my heart I was. When Denton gave me your Facebook address his idea was that you might have been able to help me in selling my books, but I guess that is our of the question now. I wish you all the luck and happiness you can muster. Gene
Gene, You are a disgrace. You are a faker and a liar and I hope some day to be able to tell you that to your face. Google your name and ranger. You have been called out before for representing yourself as a Ranger and a POW. How do you live with yourself. I will make sure that Denton is fully aware of the caliber of person you really are. Karl
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