Eugene  "Gene"  Giese

    Gene Giese

ACTUAL RECORDS

CLAIMS

He claims he spent 6 yr in Vietnam . That he was one of the original 40 “advisors” who were sent to Vietnam in 1964.

 

He claims he led LLRP and SOG teams.

 

He claims he was the sole survivor of 2 units which each got wiped out. On the second occasion he became POW which he writes about in his book.  He cites many of the same details you had listed such as being tortured with thumb screws and being held in a bamboo cage, the B52 strike and being rescued.

 

He claims operated as a sniper in Laos and Cambodia and was one of the best. He tells the story about how he was surveying a clearing when he saw Pol Pott come into the clearing. He said he had an earpiece and mouthpiece with which he communicated with his CIA handler. He said, “I have Pol Pott in my crosshairs. Do you want me to take him out?” His handler said, “Hold your fire”. Gene goes on to say, “To this day I wish I had pretended to not hear him telling me to hold my fire and I wish I would have taken his head off.”

 

He claims he and 3 other Ops did a night jump north of Hanoi and hiked down the Ho Chi Minh trail planting listening devices which would be picked up by satellite.

 

He claims he and a couple of other Ops snuck into Hai Phong harbor and sat in the bushes for 2 weeks watching and reporting by secure radio on the shipping which flowed in and out.

 

He claims he was a part of the raid on the Son Tay prison camp.

 

He claims that on his last tour, he led a team of commandos which rescued pilots who had been shot down. He claims they rescued many pilot and on 6 occasions they got pilots back who had already been taken captive by the Viet Cong. Gene is currently finishing another book which I think he said is supposed to be about his experiences rescuing pilots.

 

He claims he was one of 6 CIA ops who were planted in Tehran during the hostage crisis to spring the hostages. I seem to recall he said he “led” that group of 6. He says that most of what he did is not recorded because they were mostly “covert” and classified missions. But I find that Google searches produce information about the mission to free hostages in both Tehran and Son Tay. If “those” missions and the names of those persons are no longer classified after this amount of time has elapsed, then the missions Gene claims to have been a part of would no longer be classified either.

 

He claims that he spent time training the Contras or Sandanistas or something like that.  

 

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Claims POW and SF
2 SS, 3 PH, DSC - held 3 weeks, taken to Cambodia, , wounded arm and leg, claims parents notified he was KIA,  helicopter rescued!!!!  Claims went back to unit after escape, treatment, and took a DH18 claymore hit. Told tale to 200 students in front of real POW.

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2009  -  Continues to pose as a Ranger class #4 1959. 

Rangers state:  "No record in FY 59."

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Hello all on the address list.  I don't know all of you, but your names were included in several of the messages recently exchanged on Gene Giese.    I feel I owe you an explanation on the Gene Giese case. 
I am Mike McGrath, retired Navy O-6 who happened to spend almost six years in the Hanoi slammer.  Yes, I got all the torture, no medical treatment, etc.  I was in the middle of the whole mess. I had 187 missions and had a lot of my roommates and friends KIA.
 
Here's the straight poop on Gene Giese:  A while back I was invited to speak to a combined group of history students at Regis University, Department of History and Political Science, Denver, CO.  Large auditorium packed with history students.  Gene Giese was invited, too.  I told the professors (Ron Rockway, Dan Clayton, and Jim Guyer), he was a fraud (POW) but they allowed him to speak anyway...like most civilian folks, refusing to believe a man would lie about a thing like that.  Since I knew in advance that Giese would also be there, I brought all my documentation to prove that he was never reported for even a single day as MIA/POW.  I kept meticuous notes during his lecture ...and I still have them.  Giese spoke for about 30 minutes, then I spoke for about 30 minutes.  After the lecture, I got the professors together along with Giese and confronted Giese with my proof.  I accused him to his face of being a liar and a fraud.  I told him he should be ashamed of himself lying to hundreds of college students (the professors later
that week called the students into an assembly and apologized for letting a fraud speak to them). Giese lied to me face to face.  I take that very personally.   I served 24 1/2 years as an officer, graduated from the boat school (USNA), and take our Honor Code seriously.  I take affront at Giese claiming to have been with us as a POW.  He did not earn the honors that my dead classmates (and your dead comrades) deserve.  I was PO'ed then, and I am PO'ed now. 
None of the 661 surviving POWs ever heard of him.  Not one government agency (Dept of Defense Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office, DPMO) has ever heard of him.  He has no documentation or witnesses.  What rock was this low life living under for the last 28 years?  Why did he suddenly decide to become a "Vietnam POW" now.  Maybe he's a "wannabe."
 
Giese was sponsored by a LtCol Clarke Brandt, USA MC, a doctor at Fitzsimmons Army Hospital (Brandt still lives in the Denver area (Aurora).  Brandt said Giese "must be OK" because he used Giese to help counsel PTSD patients at the Army Hospital.  Giese's POW experience was the basis of the counseling.  Giese had a calming effect on trauma patients.  I told the Doc that he had been lied to by Giese.  Giese was never a POW.  The Doc refused to believe or my evidence. 
 
I do not question Giese on any claim other than his POW lies.  He might well have been in the Army Special Forces.  He might well be a real hero, a real warrior, an honorable man with his family, and a model citizen.  We'll see.  He does have one flaw...he is a liar and a fraud to claim he was ever a POW in Vietnam. 
 
Here is a briefing on the claims made by Giese to the students:
 
MSgt, USA.  Special Forces.  Distinguished Service Cross, 2 Silver Stars, several Purple Hearts, Three weeks captivity (he told me he couldn't remember the dates of capture or escape), shot (wounded) in both leg and arm, taken to Cambodia after capture in NVN, member of an assination team when captured in NVN, after six hours was pushed in a hole filled with water...rats swimming around his face...bamboo grate over his head...only head above water, water was cess pool, nightly beatings and interrogations (sounds like a B-grade movie).  He stuck to N,R,DOB, SN.  On 3rd 
day, escaped, ran, 15 minutes but was re-captured, hit in head with gun butt, spent some nights in pit, some nights hoisted in a tree in a bamboo cage, sleep deprivation, A NVN Major was the interrogator who "slid a stainless steel instrument under his fingernails," the "Major" said he was trained at Princeton University (USA), he could hear the B-52 strikes hitting up the Ho Chi Mihn Trail, when the B-52s came, his captors ran west, Giese broke out
of his bamboo cage and ran east.  No clothes (but he also claimed he had a survival saw hidden in the seam of his pants), he escaped.  Says "the forest provides a multitude of forest delicacies, lots of good food, fish, insects, he robbed native fishtraps," etc.  On the 3rd or 4th day after escape, he was in a rice paddy and heard a helicopter UH1 gunship as it rolled in for the kill.  The crew saw it was an American and picked him up, flew him to Pleiku.  Giese says he had traveled 250 miles to the south of where he had been captured (what a guy!).  He spent 30 days in
hospital...where he "convinced doctors, begging, crying...to go back to his unit."  Two days later he walked into his unit, the Major thought he had been killed.  They had notified his parents that he was KIA. (Right...show me the proof). Giese convinced the Major (Giese can never remember any names of these characters) to let him stay in a "TAC."  Giese then became a platoon leader in a LLRP as he "had much to make amends for."  He then went to the
Iron Triangle where he took a hit form a DH18 Claymore mine and took pieces of steel in his ribs through his back.  He was med- evaced to 1st hospital at Lei Ke.  Then went to hospital at Ben Hoa for major chest surgery.  6 hours of surgery.  The Army flew him to Japan...and the Army flew his family to Japan to meet him.  He weighed 90 lbs. and he had to gain his weight back to 140 lbs before he could go back to the states with his family.  He concluded, "I survived 3 weeks as a POW."
 
Sorry to bother you with this BS story, but I heard it with my own ears.  After the lecture, he could not tell me a single fact...where captured, who was with him, who was captured, who was killed, dates, etc.  No such helicopter rescue is recorded by US Millitary, no after action report supports claim, no morning muster reports support claim, he can't even remember which unit he was missing from. Besides, no prisoner captured in NVN was ever taken to
another country like Laos or Cambodia.  All POWs were hog-tied and taken to the Hanoi Hilton.  Security was tight.  It's all BS.  
 
We have been home for over 28 years.  The POW list has never changed.  We know who we are...and Gene Giese was never one of us.  Only 28 military men escaped from SVN, and 2 military men escaped from Laos.  He wasn't one of the 30...and they are members of our organization.
 
Well, there you have it.  I think it is despicable that a man would lie to those college students.  He might well be a good man in other respects, but he is a liar in my eyes...and in the eyes of the professors and the 200 students. 
 
Mike McGrath, Capt USN (Ret), President of NAM-POWs
POW 30 June 67 to 3 March 73
www.nampows.org  (and the list of real POWs is accessible there)
 
(Please excuse the typos...It's late, I'm tired.)

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http://www.amazon.ca/Vietnam-One-Unaccounted-Gene-Giese/dp/1893612007

Product Details

  • Paperback: 266 pages
  • Publisher: Booksurge Llc (April 28 2003)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1893612007
  • ISBN-13: 978-1893612006

Product Description

Product Description
"Vietnam: One Unaccounted For" is a fictionalized version of the author's actual experiences as a U.S. Army, Special Forces/Special Operations soldier during one of his six years in Vietnam.


About the Author
Gene Giese was born in Pollock, LA and later grew up in New Orleans. Fiercely patriotic, Gene enlisted in the United States Army at the earl age of 17. After several years of specialty training in the areas of intelligence, weapons, demolitions, tactics, and Chinese, Giese a young sergeant but old man by Army standards at 24, was sent to Vietnam. Twenty-eight years varied military service, several tours in Vietnam with Special Operations provided Gene innumerable experiences upon which to draw. After completing a degree in Photo Journalism he now resides in Aurora, CO with his wife of 23 years, Penny. This is his first fiction book.

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He and his wife regularly visit a coffee shop in Aurora, CO.

 

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I did attend Ranger School in 1959 and a week before completing the course I broke my back, just a stress fracture, so I was washed out because I could

not do all that was required. I always lived my life as it I had completed to school. In my 28-years I served in many places and in many MOSs and yes I

have two Bronze Stars w/V and several Purple hearts. My first tour in Vietnam I worked with the ARVN 1st Ranger Battalion as an instructor with MACV. I am

sorry that the fact that I lived a lift as if I were a Ranger, because in my heart I was.

When Denton gave me your Facebook address his idea was that you might have been able to help me in selling my books, but I guess that is our of the

question now.

I wish you all the luck and happiness you can muster.

Gene

 

Gene,

You are a disgrace. You are a faker and a liar and I hope some day to be able to tell you that to your face. Google your name and ranger. You have been

called out before for representing yourself as a Ranger and a POW. How do you live with yourself.

I will make sure that Denton is fully aware of the caliber of person you really are.

Karl

 

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