JOHN SACROSANTE
aka JOHN HAYDEN
aka STEVEN/STEPHEN LAIRD GROSS

RE aka's --Always kept Stephen/Steven in his name
--John was a favored grandfather and his only positive role model
--Hayden is the last name of his ex wife, Sxxxxx Hayden.

09/2009  

  • May have fled to Phoenix.

  • The probation officer was still coming to check out his living arrangement at the rented home until July (probation ended July 21, 2009 -- see attached docs).

  • John is bi-polar and was mandated to get medications and counseling through a county program (no fee).  He was on Lithium.  Fits with a change in behavior that was observed.

  • John is an alcoholic and one of the conditions of probation was no alcohol, AA meetings etc.

  • In 2005 he was charged by the United States of America for forging U.S. Department of Homeland Security documents in an attempt to procure a $2.5M Helicopter.

  • Claims name John S. Hayden: 
  • Claims this is one of many "identities" he has been given as a Navy SEAL working with the NSA for more than 20 years. 
  • Claims this identity was assigned about 3 years ago when he was "put on the street sterile" (untraceable etc.) from the NPG in Monterey with "nothing" and told to lay low until he was contacted again.  Orders were through August 1, 2009.  He has not yet received new orders.
  • Claims all prior identities were stripped.  Including, military ID, uniforms, access to any active, reserve or retired military services,  passport, credit cards, proof of divorce from first wife, financial records etc.
  • Claims reason for these orders is a domestic terrorism op he was assigned to from which expected "not to come back alive" and possible bad guys looking for him.
  • Claims he is a Navy pilot.
  • Claims while in the Navy claims he has earned a B.S. and two Ph.D. degrees.  Dodges questions about field of study, dissertation topic as "classified."
  • Claims rank in May 2006t:  Lower Rear Adm.  
  • Promotion granted late 2007: Upper Rear Adm.  Promotion due upon contact: Vice Adm.  These promotions while on a 3 year forced inactive status were "negotiated" when he was put on the street.  
  • Claims he is "guaranteed" to retire as a Vice Admiral with all retirement benefits.
  • Claims current orders are not to use any of the skills or contacts he gained in the military.
  • Claim he signed up for the Army Rangers in December 1979 under the other name {Steve} went active in June 1980.
  • Claims in 1982 or 1983 he moved to the Navy, as active reserve and joined the SEALS.  BUDS sometime '82-84.
  • Claims he is very "high-up."
  • Claims he has spent a lot of time in Afghanistan and is a valuable asset -- they may stop-loss him.
  • Claims he has worked with a sub-agency of the NSA for years "once you go to the dark side" that's where you stay.
  • Claims 80% of his career he has been "out of uniform"
  • Claims approx 30 years in the service.
  • Claim he grew up in San Jose.  Went to Blackford HS.  Graduated 1979. 
  • Claims he is estranged from adoptive parents and brother -- "this made me a perfect candidate for the ops I was assigned."
  • Claims he sent a certified letter to Sen. Diane Feinstien on Aug. 7th requesting a meeting.  Received in her office on Monday Aug 10th.  Sent under  a prior identity (the one she would recognize from his last promotion) and mentioned the name of the secret op he participated in because she would know about it.  Volunteered to testify if requested.  Nothing to hide.  So...anyone in her office could open the letter and read the secret stuff.  So far no reply.  "She has it and it is being passed on for action."
  • In the past when orders came, they were usually hand delivered.  A knock at the door by "government personnel" and he was off.
  • Claims he cannot socialize below his rank - even with a fellow SEAL.
  • Claims last job was as a Limo driver.  He "quit"  in July in expectation of contact from the Navy.
  • Claims Lower Rear Admiral age 44 or less, in grade ~3 years promoted to Upper Rear Admiral age 45 while on orders to lay low and due for promo to Vice-Admiral after 1 1/2 years in grade at Lower RADM now at age 47/48 again without any active status or command for the last three years.
  • Claims that he would not get in touch with any of his SEAL buddies for several years after he gets out and that is normal.
  • Claims his fellow SEALs  would  "be shocked at what has happened to him because the Navy takes care of its own better than any other branch and no one would expect this."
  • Claims he was "hung out to dry for" and several others on an op.
  • Claims the Navy is withholding all of his salary for the 3 1/2 years and he was due a lump sum payment for back pay and bonus (for Upper Rear Admiral) on August 1.
  • Claims all his money was taken/hidden when he was put out - so he has none...... Has no car. 

Dear POW Network,

Please pass this information along in response to the inquiry regarding Mr. JOHN SACROSANTE aka JOHN HAYDEN aka STEVEN/STEPHEN LAIRD GROSS.

 

I greatly appreciate your interest in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams, and your search for the TRUTH. Before answering your questions I must make clear that I am a private individual, not affiliated with the US Dept. of Defense or any other government organization. My efforts to expose SEAL imposters are performed as a service to the public, and in honor of my SEAL Teammates who gave their lives in service to our nation… men who truly earned the right to the title “US NAVY SEAL” but who are no longer able to stand forward in defense of their honor, their reputations, and their TEAMs.

If the name you provided is spelled correctly, I do NOT find a listing in the SEAL Database (end of WWII to the Present Day) for anyone named JOHN SACROSANTE aka JOHN HAYDEN aka STEVEN/STEPHEN LAIRD GROSS. I have also examined possible alternate spellings, and names with similar pronunciations without finding any that appear to be applicable.

Unless he has undertaken the unlikely action of a legal name change (an action for which there would be evidence in the form of court documentation) since his claimed attendance at BUD/S training, and based upon the information you have provided, I can state conclusively that JOHN SACROSANTE aka JOHN HAYDEN aka STEVEN/STEPHEN LAIRD GROSS has NEVER COMPLETED SEAL training, and he is not now, nor was he ever a Navy SEAL or a Navy UDT “Frogman”.

When members of the Naval Special Warfare community meet others who claim similar service, but whom they do not recognize, there is a conversational exchange of information that establishes the bona fides of each to the other. There is no set formula for this exchange, nor for the information that is exchanged, but it ALWAYS takes place, and the REAL Naval Special Warfare members can ALWAYS spot a phony as a result of this exchange. If you have an opportunity to speak with the man at some point in the future, I might suggest that you ask Mr. NAME these questions:

(1) Since there is no listing in the SEAL Database for the name you are currently using, WHAT NAME DID YOU USE during SEAL training?

(2) What was his BUD/S Class Number? (NB: No SEAL ever forgets the class number he shouted all day long, every day, for 6 months)

(3) Where did his training take place? (NB: Training has been conducted at several locations over the years; different portions in different places)

(4) When did he graduate from Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training? (i.e. a specific graduation DATE)

(5) When did he enter the US Navy (a specific month and year)

(6) When did he leave the US Navy (a specific month and year)

(7) What was his rank at the time he left military service (including Naval Enlisted Classification code –NEC– or Naval Officer Billet Code – NOBC)

There are many other questions which could be asked to further establish the level of veracity or untruth regarding his claims, such as asking for the names of other members of his graduating class, but those basic questions are absolutes. The answers to those questions are totally UNCLASSIFIED, and every real SEAL will gladly provide that substantiating information upon request.

I might suggest that you also ask Mr. SACROSANTE aka HAYDEN aka GROSS to specifically identify WHICH SEAL Team(s) he served on, and when. I am in direct contact with several hundred of my SEAL Teammates whose collective experience covers virtually all time periods from the Korean War to the present; I can quickly contact those individuals to verify any specific names, events, or other claims offered by Mr. SACROSANTE aka HAYDEN aka GROSS. If he feels that his name has somehow been mistakenly omitted from the SEAL records, I’d be pleased to speak with him and hear details of his service which would serve to validate his claims. The Director of the Naval Special Warfare Archives – a close personal friend and SEAL Teammate – is only a phone call away and standing by to amend the records if this is ever found to be true. However, I estimate that I’ve made the same offer to more than 5,000 SEAL imposters in the last eight years, and none of them ever turned out to be a valid SEAL.

No one gets to the SEAL Teams without first completing BUD/S Training. There are records of every man who has qualified for the title of “SEAL”; there have been and will continue to be secret missions, but there are NO secret SEALs… we know them all....

The vast array of unrealistic claims of military duty, rank, assignments, et al which have been made by this man is as heinous and fraudulent as any I have encountered in all of my work involving SEAL imposters. He has cobbled together a mind-boggling array of plot elements from multiple “spy movies” and “action/adventure films” as well as from current/popular TV shows such as “BURN NOTICE”, and has represented them as being factual details of his own life. He has made claims which were so preposterous and unrealistic, and has apparently made those claims in activities which were of such an unlawful nature as to have prompted special stipulations which were written into court documentation as follows:

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA vs JOHN SACROSANTE (aka John Hayden aka Steven Laird Gross), in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, San Jose Division. No. CR 05-00639 RMW

STIPULATION AND ORDER MODIFYING CONDITION OF PROBATION [dated 08/10/06]

“The defendant shall not be involved in any military related work, and shall not hold himself out as an employee or representative of the military, either orally, or through dress, or otherwise.”

This man is known to the federal legal system as a military imposter of such magnitude as to warrant federal charges and prosecution in a court of law, and to necessitate special stipulations precluding his making those military claims in any way, shape, or form. Whether or not his probation has expired, it is clear that he is once again making those false claims, and misrepresenting himself to the woman you know. Please feel free to provide her with a copy of this email letter.

Thank you again for your concern in this matter, and for your assistance in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams. If I can be of any further assistance to you in this matter, please contact me at your convenience.

Respectfully,

Steve Robinson RM2(SEAL)
USN 1970-1978
SEAL Team ONE
Inshore Undersea Warfare Group ONE
Defense Analyst – Soviet Threat specialization 1981-1993
UDT-SEAL Association - Member
Special Operations Association - Member
POW Network Board of Directors
Naval Special Warfare Archives - SOF Analyst/Contributing Journalist
Disabled American Veterans - Life Member
FORMER Special Investigator - SEAL Authentication Team
CyberSEALs.org - Webmaster
Author - "NO GUTS, NO GLORY - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters"

http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/log/2001/06/19/sacrosante/index.html

The case of the homeless dot-commer

John Sacrosante says he went from six figures to a shelter. His friends say there's something fishy in San Jose......

Associated Press Archive

June 16, 2001

Because of dot-com bust, laid-off high-tech workers are ending up in homeless shelters

Author: KAREN A. DAVIS; Associated Press Writer

Dateline: SAN JOSE , Calif.

Article Text:

Mike Schlenz, who recently installed computer networks for a living, had been sleeping in his Honda Civic for three months before he went to a homeless shelter.

John Sacrosante, who earned more than $100,000 a year as a free-lance database engineer, spent his 39th birthday last week with the "brothers" he met at the church shelter where he has been living.

Both are casualties of the dot-com bust in Silicon Valley , where a surprising number of former high-tech workers are rubbing elbows with society's castaways -- the mentally ill, drug addicts and other hard-luck cases -- in homeless shelters.

"We're all equal here," Sacrosante said. "When you're used to making six figures and working in a dynamic and exciting environment and all of a sudden it goes away, you do have a nice little world of depression going on."

Nearly 30 unemployed tech workers are among the 100 men at the Montgomery Street Inn and other shelters in San Jose run by InnVision, said Robbie Reinhart, director of the nonprofit organization.

"They're not what we used to call hobos on the street. Most have college degrees," she said.

Dot-com failures sent San Francisco 's unemployment rate up to 4.2 percent in May from a rock-bottom 2.6 percent a year ago -- with 18,000 people added, according to a state report.

In Santa Clara County , the heart of Silicon Valley , layoffs in electronic equipment manufacturing and business services rose for the fifth straight month, contributing to a 3.2 percent unemployment rate in May.

Reinhart said most of the tech workers she sees have had their contracts canceled or been laid off from start-ups and other smaller technology companies. Other shelter residents still have jobs but don't make enough to afford the high price of living alone in the valley, she said.

Top consultants and contractors once named their salaries in the valley. Now, even those who qualify for unemployment benefits soon discover the $40 to $230 weekly check will not cover an apartment here, where rent averages around $1,800 a month.

Suicide and crisis hot line operators in San Francisco and Santa Clara counties report that job-related calls nearly doubled from October to April. Many callers complained of lost jobs or feared they would soon be out of work.

"There have always been layoffs and economic downturns, but what makes this unusual is that people in the valley have become appendages of their jobs and their workplace. They've worked up to 110 hours per week and slept on the conference room floor," said Ilene Philipson, a clinical psychologist at the Center for Working Families at the University of California at Berkeley . "People have given up all sorts of things to give to their job, and when there's a layoff there's no other support for them."

Schlenz, 35, a Bay Area native with a degree in environmental chemistry, made as much as $60,000 a year as a free-lance contractor, installing Unix networks, configuring routers and working in desktop support for small companies. Then his jobs disappeared.

"I'd been to all the job fairs. I'd followed up on all the resumes," he said. "Some of the larger companies approached me several times, but then kept leading me on for months. Departments were downsized and outsourced. Recruiters just stopped returning messages."

Schlenz still has some stock, but the value has dropped.

"I cashed in half my stocks to eat. I couldn't even afford gas anymore," he said. He gave up his apartment after running out of cash, and "car-camped" behind a bookstore. He showered at a gym where his membership was good through May.

Someone told him he could get a meal at the Montgomery Street Inn, where he now stays. He volunteers in the shelter's computer lab, teaching residents how to use computers.

The Inn has the same policy for all its residents -- stay free for a month, then pay $45 a week, whether they have a job or not.

Sacrosante was laid off shortly after moving from San Jose to Phoenix to work on what was supposed to be a six-month project. He came back to San Jose three weeks ago with the promise of being hired by one of two Santa Clara-based technical training companies. The offers fell through.

There's an only-in-Silicon Valley twist to his story: Sacrosante and three other former high-tech workers who met at the shelter are launching a start-up business that will resell wearable mobile computing systems.

Sacrosante said he will use some of the funding he secured for the venture to rent a house.

Schlenz is still waiting for his lucky break.

He said he has applied for an entry-level position, something for which he is overqualified, at Oracle Corp. He hasn't told his mother in Arkansas about his situation.

"She'd worry," he said. But he said he now has more of what it takes to make it when a top company hires him: "After this experience, I feel I have more determination than other people."

http://www.websupp.org/data/NDCA/5:05-cr-00639-33-NDCA.pdf

 

 

Has history of debts owed, lawsuits filed for judgments.

08/28/2009

Mr. SACROSANTE aka HAYDEN aka GROSS.

You are a phony, an impostor.

We have access to every name of every man who completed SEAL training or its predecessor warfare specialty training since the middle of World War 2.

Training is not classified.  The names of the men who have had the courage to complete training are on the successful trainee list.

Your name is not on that list.

Men of courage, resilience, and perseverance have walked the path that you can only lie about.

You will not steal their valor because you have been exposed.

An American, a real US Naval Special Warfare member (aka SEAL) 1969-1991.

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Failure to Appear

Utah Arrest - Failure to Appear

Sober Living

Sober Living 2

Bond

Hayden Court Filing

Hayden Court

Hayden Felony Judgment

Hayden Modification of Probation