KENNETH RONALD COLEMAN |
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Mr. Coleman claims he received this from the Navy with his awards and decorations. |
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Mr. Coleman makes no mention of
the stories (above) in the Howlin mad News (dated June 2007) |
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From: Krc6247@aol.com Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:18:28 EDT Subject: Letter of Apology To: info@pownetwork.org CC: 2stubbs1@cox.net, Krc6247@aol.com
To attention Mary Schantag,
I Kenneth R. Coleman would like to apologize for the
error of wearing the Silver & Bronze Star Medals / Ribbons that
were sent to me by error from the Department of the Navy. After
investigation by Tom Stubbs First Battalion, Ninth Marines
Network , It was found that I don't warrant these awards and since
the findings I have removed them from all my uniforms. I
truly hope that you and the Pow Organization forgive me for
this injustice. An error was made by the Records Department
back in 2004-05 You can contact Tom
Stubbs.. he knows the whole story if you need more
information on this issue . I have written an apology
letter to the 1/9 network and now to you. Please remove me from your
web site as a Wannabee it would be very
much appreciated. Feel free to contact me if you have any
questions or concerns. Thanks Again !!!
Ken "Doc" Coleman
GOD BLESS US ALL !!! NEVER FORGET OUR POW/MIA'S SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND PRAY TO KEEP THEM OUT OF HARMS WAY ... GOD BLESS AMERICA !!! " SEMPER FI " KEN "DOC" COLEMAN 219-746-6038 KRC6247@AOL.COM |
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At 08:01 PM 11/15/2008, mclmike@comcast.net wrote: Sir, My name is Michael Lieber. I am the Commandant of the Marine Corps League - Department of Indiana. I was requested by the League's National Judge Advocate in June of this year to look into the reported actions of Mr. Kenneth "Doc" Coleman of the League's Howlin' Mad Detachment of Hobart, Indiana for possible violation(s) of the 'Stolen Valor Act' by Mr. Coleman. After a lengthy investigation, our Departmental Hearing Board was able to determine the following information: Yes, Mr. Coleman had been claiming and wearing the Bronze Star Medal and the Silver Star Medal. Yes, in fact Mr. Coleman DID have documentation in his possession stating that he was entitled to these awards. At the conclusion of our board's research into this matter, and with the assistance of our local Congressman, we were able to obtain an additional document which stated that the fact that Mr. Coleman's awarding of these medals had indeed occurred, but that it had been done IN ERROR. As a result of our findings Mr. Coleman has, our Hearing Board believes sincerely, agreed to cease all future reference to having been awarded these medals, and further he has agreed to cease any future wearing of these medals. At that point, our Hearing Board reached the conclusion that there was NO intent to violate the 'Stolen Valor Act' on Mr. Coleman's part. The conclusions and recommendations reached by this Hearing Board have been forwarded to the National Judge Advocate in the manner required by the Marine Corps League's National Administrative Procedures, Section 904. Should you feel the need, please feel free to contact Mr. John Kovalcik, the League's National Judge Advocate, for verification of this information. The Marine Corps League - Department of Indian strongly recommends that Mr. Coleman should be removed from your 'WANNABE' list forthwith. Please feel free to contact me, or anyone else in the Marine Corps League's 'chain-of-command' should you feel it necessary. Semper Fidelis, Michael Lieber, Commandant Marine Corps League - Department of Indiana |
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"P.O.W. Network - Chuck and Mary Schantag" <info@pownetwork.org He will remain posted until the Navy Personnel Command authenticates the letter he is using as actually coming from the BUPERS. A letter was filed with them, and they were provided copies of the documents Mr. Coleman presented to us earlier. Due to the Bruce Cotta fiasco and the Irving Schwartz fiasco (the naming and almost naming of Post Offices based on falsified documentation originating with the VETERAN and NOT the military) we feel it necessary to first find out if the Navy actually sent the awards list "in error" when there is no way the list was generated form his records. Once a response is received, we will know how to proceed. Mary and Chuck Schantag P.O.W. Network www.pownetwork.org |
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11/15/2008, mclmike@comcast.net wrote: Actually, I have no knowledge of either of the other cases you have refered to. In fact, until Mr. Coleman's situation was brought to my attention, I had not had the opportunity to learn of your group. I am absolutely in favor of exposing frauds. I think this is a great benefit to the veteran's community and the nation. As Department Commandant, I have been responsible for the removal of three so called WANNABE'S from my Department. I found it refreshing to find an individual who had been wrongly accused and demonstrate that fact to my National organization. The document in question is Form NAVPERS 1650/65 from the Navy Personnel Command - Retired Records Section in St. Louis. The corrected document is dated July 11, 2006. It was sent to Congressman Peter Visclosky of the 1st District in Indiana, Attn. Thomas Kubon. Rather than me forwarding this document, perhaps you should contact VETREC's to obtain it yourself. I understand that you do not know me or you would not have questioned my veracity. Semper Fidelis, Michael Lieber |
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From: "P.O.W. Network - Chuck and Mary Schantag" <info@pownetwork.org Please go over this again for us. You say he had a "corrected" form dated 2006 - and yet in 2007 and 2008 he was still wearing the awards and adding them to his posting on Marine websites? When he attempted to "explain" in August - he chose only to sent the form dated 2006 that lists awards far above and beyond his record content - and not 2004 as he states below.
Once again - we fail to understand how any clerk at NPRC
could get a list of awards so wrong. The head archivist has been
contacted, but it is |
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At 07:24 AM 11/16/2008, mclmike@comcast.net wrote: For whatever reason, Mr. Coleman has stated that he did not receive the updated form. He explained that he had not seen it until our Department investigation turned it up. The past is prologue. The important thing here is the correct information. You have that information in your possession now. How you choose to follow up will illustrate your true motive. Michael Lieber, Commandant Department of Indiana Marine Corps League |
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so the stories in print in 2007 about how he "earned" those
awards are to be ignored? Sorry - his claims fall within the mandate of the STOLEN VALOR ACT. He KNEW he had not earned those awards. He got caught. Now he has to face the consequences. Mary and Chuck Schantag P.O.W. Network www.pownetwork.org |
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At 09:45 AM
11/16/2008, mclmike@comcast.net wrote:Please review my previous e-mail; you have missed the point. I am forced to wonder if you have ever withdrawn a name from your website. |
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BLATANT CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED. |
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BINGO.
By Mr. Lieber’s standard, if someone
produces a form…say DD-214 showing awards not in their file, they
aren’t phony, the problem rests with the
person issuing the form that is in error. No way could someone have
faked it…right? |
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| I suggest you ask Michael Lieber supply you a copy of the document HE is referring to, and from where (exact address) he obtained it (i.e., Coleman ?). Mr. Visclosky, is named as having supplied the referenced NAVPERS 1650-65 dated July 11, 2006 | |
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"Doug Sterner" <Doug@HomeOfHeroes.com> To: "'P.O.W. Network - Chuck and Mary Schantag'" <info@pownetwork.org>, <mclmike@comcast.net> Subject: RE: Your case against Mr. Kenneth 'Doc' Coleman Date: Frankly
all, I’m stunned. While I’m former Army, I’ve always been
impressed at the espirit de corps of
Marines, and especially their dedication to duty, honor,
country…and integrity. I’m quite used to members of a Legion
Post or VFW trying to sweep the fraud of a buddy underneath the
carpet…it happens all the time. I’ve always been both amazed and
proud that former Marines tend to be less liberal in overlooking one
of their number who proves to be lacking
in all these. I
guess that is not the case in the Post that proudly supports
“Doc” Coleman…a thief! “Oh…he’s sorry, it was a mistake
and he promises not do it again…” EVERYBODY’s
sorry when they get caught! As long as such criminal activity…and
what Coleman did is a Federal Crime…the theft of honor by such
frauds will perpetuate and grow. I
expected much more from an MCL Post. Sincerely, Doug C.
Douglas Sterner 3111
Thatcher Ave. Pueblo,
CO 81005 (719)
564-1755 |