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WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW:

DD-214s And the Problem with using them for verification

VA Fraud $$s Recovered

Exposing the Phonies

A Roll of Honor Needed For Accuracy in Media Stories

Why has no legal action been taken to date?

11/2009

...  I hate to tell you but this is a common occurrence.  There are over 2,000 phony POWs (Vietnam era) who are wannabes.  People ask why they do this.  The best answer I have come up with over the last ten years is my own analysis:  They are folks with low self esteem who feel that they need a boost in respect and admiration from others.  They vary from guys who are making a hit on a girl at the local bar, to a man who needs admiration from a co-worker at work, or a guy who feels that he needs a little admiration from his buddies, his grandkids, or from a girl he is trying to win over to marry him.  We humorously call it the "POW sob story." 
 
Strangely...it works!  Most folks do not want to question a man who makes such a claim.  It is in our human nature to want to believe him.  When we do question him, he modestly says "Well, it was a secret mission which I still can't discuss," as he casually dismisses his miraculous escape as "not a big deal."  Please read my attachment.  It is a paper I worked on a couple of years ago...but it is still current.  It will give you a few ideas.

MACS FACTS - Challenging a P.O.W. Claim -- by Capt. John Michael McGrath, USN RET  [Former Vietnam Prisoner of War - Past President of Nam Pows, Inc. ***]


Another thing to ponder is the action (or, non-action) of various chapters of the VFW, American Legion, etc. who choose to dismiss these revelations as inconsequential.  Most service organization commanders put off the inconvenient truth by saying, "Sam is such a wonderful man, he has done such good things for our chapter, he has helped the blind, the sick the poor, and volunteered for every duty we have.  I just can't believe he would be lying about such a thing.  I choose to believe Sam." 
 
Well...that is their perrogative.  That is one of the reasons I do not belong to service organizations.  Most of them ignore the numbers of men who have submitted falsified copies of DD-214s, falsified their verbal (and undocumented) claims, etc.  Many men want to belong to service clubs to enjoy the camaraderie and bar privileges.  To Post Commanders, the 
numbers of members who pay dues and are all around good guys outweighs the unpleasant task of weeding out those who do no legitimately belong to such an honorable organization. 
 
Not a single wannabe POW in the last 35 years has proven that the PMSEA list (Department of Defense) has mistakenly left them off the list.  Don't be fooled by the crocodile tears, the aggressive protestations, or the feigned anger directed toward anyone who would question them.  It is all a charade.  Liars are liars.  For most of their lives they have bullied others with a strong presentation of their boastful exploits.  For me, the solution is simple.  Simply ignore them and never associate with them again.  They can live in their own house of cards, with their lies.  I want no part of them as they are
not honorable men. 
 
Having said this, I am not adverse to accepting an apology, an admission from the man as to what he has done.  An honorable man will have the strength of character to apologize to all to whom he has lied.  He will admit he was wrong and he will work hard to make amends and to regain the trust of his friends by living an honest life.  Such a man deserves a second chance. .....

 

Mike McGrath

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VERIFICATION LINKS:

ALL Prisoners of War from Vietnam  
Returnees, escapees, AWOL, remains returned, PFOD, KIA/BNR. Based on the "PMSEA" THE Pentagon List.

THE PMSEA   -- The Personnel Missing - Southeast Asia (PMSEA) Database was originally compiled by the Defense Intelligence Agency's (DIA) POW/MIA Office as an ongoing effort that spanned the course of the War in Indochina. Working closely with the military services and other members of the Intelligence Community, efforts were made to keep the list updated as the losses occurred.    Following the end of the war, DIA continued to maintain the database, keeping it updated as progress was made in the accounting effort. When DPMO was formed in 1993, it absorbed DIA's POW/MIA Office and responsibility for the PMSEA database. 

ALL MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENTS, ALL WARS

ALL LIVING MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENTS - by home state (or citation, birth date, war, etc)

Preserving the History of Recipients of the Medal of HonorHome of Heroes

Alphabetical Index of Recipients of  Major U.S. Military Awards

THE HALL OF VALOR 

Meet ROGER DONLON, Medal of Honor Recipient, phony hunter

LEGION OF VALOR (Membership limited to MOH, Distinguished Service Cross, Navy Cross, Air Force Cross) Can verify any individual's claim of these awards.

Swift Boat Crew Directory - the REAL guys!

Medal of Honor - Heroes of Iraq and Afghanistan


LINKS to others uncovering phonies:

TUSKEGEE AIRMEN

Stolen Valor:  - The liars on this page were never PJ's.

http://vietnam-veterans.us/wannabes/  -  Wannabes, Valor Thieves, Poseurs, Fakes, Frauds, Scumbags, Low Life's, Imposters, Charlatans, Cheats ... You will be caught!

RATPACK - Uncovering the phonies within the VFW, Veterans of Foreign Wars.

The F.B.I.  - Major Cases - Medal Of Honor -- turn in a suspected sale or phony...

Medal of Honor --  the men that EARNED it in Vietnam... and the phonies that didn't...
FBI False Medal of Honor

Marine Corps phonies - by a Marine for Marines (and the rest of the world)

veriseal.org -  INVESTIGATES PHONY SEALS

U.S. Naval Warfare Archives  - SEALS

SEALs - Wall of Shame:  Fake SEALs?" -- The phony SEAL list of thousands - caught in their own lies...

SEALs - Links, information and more on phony SEALs and other wannabe's.

U.S. Army Ranger Association

MACVSOG -  SOG  Hall of Shame 

Phonyveterans.com  - Phonies, photos and more. No holds barred.  

Army Rangers  - The Wannabee Hunt Club Trophy Room

Military Order of the Purple Heart, AZ - yet more phonies and frauds.

USS PUEBLO -- the Crew; those captured, repatriated, and those that died.

Lovefraud.com Many fraudsters are sociopaths - Lovefraud explains how to spot them.

Nativewayproductions.com   Phony Veterans & Indians

After Action Reports -- Official Vietnam Records - free except for copying costs.

Fraud - Resume Falsification -  Description: Fraud Prevention, Information and News about Fraud Online

http://www.weavingthetruth.com - Proud Sibling of Cpl. Thomas Steven Hickman,196th LIB- KIA- Vietnam 8/26/1970
Founder: www.goldstarsiblingsinc.org

SRAP - 50th173rdabnbrigade.org

http://www.lovefraud.com   - what to do, how to move on, how to recover from being the VICTIM of a phony

Australian Military Fraud  - The wannabe's down under... not just our problem! Uncovering the truth among Australia's Vietnam veterans.

You may have noticed that in our recent exposures we have begun naming the executive officers of the organisations that harbour this trash.....

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.html?062206/062206_ff_medals&FNL&Dishonoring
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NOTE TO ALL: THEY ARE MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENTS...
THEY DIDN'T WIN (OR WANT) ANYTHING. 

THOSE THAT WERE AWARDED THE MEDAL BY ACT OF CONGRESS ARE RECIPIENTS -  
NOT
MOH WINNERS. THEY ARE HUMBLE HEROES. 

GET IT RIGHT.  THEY EARNED IT.

 

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