Pilots in Pajamas - Part 5

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135.
Hughes reads a             Author's            Lieutenant Colonel Hughes
letter in camp yard                            has received a letter.
                           Female voice:       Dear Jim,
                                               Petunias, lilacs and
                                               geraniums are sprouting up
                                               all over the city. Everyone
                                               seems to be taking an
                                               interest in perking up their
                                               yards, and with a little bit
                                               of effort, things will look
                                               really pretty by next
                                               month...
                           Author's
                           Commentary:         Professional anti-communists
                                               in the United States have
                                               purposely spread the lie that
                                               there is no postal contact
                                               between the prisoners
                                               and their relatives.
                           Female voice:       Peter looks a little funny in
                                               his pictures becasue he has a
                                               large black space where his
                                               two front teeth should be,
                                               but one of his two permanent
                                               front teeth is pushing
                                               through the gum and should be
                                               all the way out soon.
                           Author's
                           Commentary:         Mrs. Hughes wrote on the
                                               envelope of her letter: "For:
                                               James Lindbergh Hughes FR
                                               43211  -- Camp of Detention
                                               for US Pilots Captured in the
                                               Democratic Republic of
                                               Vietnam. C/O Hanoi, Post
                                               Office."
                           Female voice:       What more can I say except
                                               that I tuck a little prayer
                                               inside this letter. We love
                                               you. Your wife, Dotty
                           Author's
                           Commentary:         James Lindbergh Hughes, 40
                                               years old. Lieutenant Colonel
                                               in the US Air Force. 44
                                               bombing raids against th
                                               e Democrati       c Republic
                                               of Vietnam. As the high
                                               noon sun beats unmercifully
                                               on the roof tops of
                                               Hilton-Hanoi, somewhere in
                                               the United States there is a
                                               shady place. A young boy
                                               named Peter whose two front
                                               teeth are pushing through the
                                               gum. A wife named Dotty. We
                                               show you here the picture of
                                               a moved man. With all due
                                               reserve we almost have
                                               something like understanding
                                               for his present state of
                                               emotion. But we also know
                                               that the Washington superiors
                                               of Lt. Cl. Hughes will view
                                               this scene with deep
                                               displeasure; for, according
                                               to their orders, Americans
                                               who are captured are not
                                               supposed to be moved, but are
                                               to move!
136.
Facsimile                  Commentary:         "I will make every effort to
Code of Conduct                                escape, and aid others to
Article 3:                                     escape."
pan to Code title                              This is Article 3 of the
                                               "Code of Conduct."
137.
Camp scene:                                    Each of these captured
Pilots working in yard                         officers knows his Code of
                                               Conduct in detail, but ever
                                               since the existence of the
                                               detention camp for American
                                               air pirates not one single
                                               escape attempt has been made.
138.
Hubbard exercising                             Daily calisthenics keep the
                                               uninjured captured pilots in
                                               good physical condition.
139.
In camp:                                       The cell doors are no more
Vietnamese soldier                             secure than those of rabbit
hangs lock on door                             pens.
140.
Hubbard exercising                             The vast majority of the
                                               prisoners have maintained
                                               their weight and would be
                                               able to break open the cell
                                               doors with one hefty
                                               kick. With such physical
                                               flexibility a prisoner should
                                               in be a position to overcome
                                               even the most complicated
                                               barriers.
141.
Stratton and Hegdahl in shower                 Commander Stratton and Seaman
                                               Hegdahl could climb this wall
                                               for example
142.
Pan to camp wall and                           without particular difficulty;
street outside                                 they would be on the street
                                               with one leap. But not one of
                                               the captured Americans thinks
                                               of
143.
Pan to Stratton and                             adhering to his pledge to
Hegdahl in shower                               escape;
144.
Capture scene                                  for the pilots have already
                                               become acquainted with the
                                               proverbial "Man on the
                                               Street" when they were
                                               captured.
145.
Pilot taken away by crowd  Author's            After such first impressions
                           Commentary:         on Vietnamese soil and the
                                               downed world policmen are
                                               more than happy
146.
Pan to camp wall, shower                       that their camp is enclosed
and view of street across wall                 by walls. They adjust
                                               themselves to their new
                                               habitat, but do not
                                               particularly like to be asked
                                               to compare their present
                                               situation with that back at
                                               their bases.
147.
Ringsdorf declares                             Not even First Lieutenant
                                               Ringsdorf.
                           Ringsdorf:          I don't think there is any
                                               comparison. I don't quite
                                               understand. I, here I have
                                               all the basic necessities, if
                                               that's what you mean. There
                                               I, I had quite a bit more
                                               than the basic necessities.
                           X:                  Please explain for me your
                                               way of living at the Air
                                               Force base in South Vietnam,
                                               where you were stationed.
                                               What sort of opportunities
                                               did you have there?
                           Ringsdorf:          Ah, it was mostly work and
                                               sleep, but there were movies
                                               and we had some USO shows
                                               and we had one thing, we had
                                               good food to eat but
                                               there wasn't a whole lot to
                                               do.
148.
Hubbard declares           Hubbard:            We had a chapel, I don't
                                               know how many, several
                                               chaplains on the base. There
                                               were religious services th at
                                               you could attend any time.
                                               And, the Officer's Club, we
                                               had a very large dining room
                                               that was open 24 hour a day,
                                               two bars where you could get
                                               anything you wanted to drink
                                               and a swimming pool right out
                                               beside the club and we had,
                                               there was a lib rary on the
                                               base, though I never, I never
                                               went there and. . .
149.
Torkelson declares         X:                  Lieutenant Torkelson, you
                                               were stationed at Da Nang,
                                               the important US air base in
                                               South Vietnam. Could you tell
                                               us something about
                                               the life at this base?
                           Torkelson:          A well, I think the base was
                                               originally built by the
                                               French and ah, we were living
                                               in quarters built also by the
                                               French, coment quarters;
                                               two-storey quarters were for
                                               the officers, were
                                               air-conditioned. We each had
                                               a room of our own. A room
                                               probably about the size of
                                               this one. Ah, we had an
                                               Officer's club there, a movie
                                               theatre, we had different
                                               movies every night, we had a
                                               bar and a lounge, you
                                               barbecue steaks in the dining
                                               room of the officer's club.
                                               The had special shows there
                                               probably, once a week from
                                               the States, ah, generally
                                               speaking, it was improving
                                               all the time, as far as our
                                               life, ah, concerning our
                                               leisure time.
                           X:                  Was Da Nang actually a safe
                                               place?
                           Torkelson:          Relatively speaking yes.
                           X:                  Will please explain this word
                                               "relatively"?
                           Torkelson:          Well, ah, the place, the
                                               surrounding area there, is
                                               actually a marine base and
                                               there was some 15 or 16.000
                                               American marines stationed at
                                               Da Nang and they did
                                               occasionally have small
                                               incidents of Viet cong
                                               activity, but I think with
                                               the American marines there
                                               you can say that it was
                                               secure.
                           X:                  Isn't it true that the Da
                                               Nang airfield, the place
                                               where your airplanes were
                                               located, was repeatedly under
                                               mortar fire of the NLF?
                           Torkelson:          Ah, twice while I was there
                                               they were fired on by
                                               rockets, ah, Soviet rockets.
150.
NLF attack on              Commentary:         In the mean time the
Da Nang.                                       Americans in Da Nang are
Burning planes                                 counting the times they are
                                               NOT shelled by mortars and
                                               rockets of the NFL. The
                                               inmate of the Hilton-Hanoi
                                               possibly lives much safer
                                               today than his buddies at Da
                                               Nang which is no longer
                                               relatively secure.
151.
Plane debris, plane tires burn                 - Music  -
152.
Alvarez declares           X:                  Lieutenant Alvarez, could you
                                               tell us something about life
                                               onboard the aircraft
                                               carrier Constellation, before
                                               you took off on your
                                               first and at the same time
                                               last flight on August 5,
                                               1964?
                           Alvarez:            Our life was very routine.
                                               Ah, good food, ah, good beds,
                                               ah, pop-corn machine. You
                                               know pop-corn? Good popcorn.
                                               Magazines to read and so
                                               forth.
153.
Popcorn                    Commentary:         Dry popcorn  -
154.
Soldiers in bar                                Juicy girls  -
155.
Military show                                  Front-line shows  -
156.
Americans and Vietnamese
on beach                                       Beach-clubs with ladies  -
157.
"Overseas Weekly"                              Military newspapers  -
158.
AFN studio Saigon                              Armed Forces Radio  -
159.
US Television Saigon                           And their own TV Programs:
                                               American Forces Network  -
                                               Saigon TV
160.
Front theater                                  The USA spares neither money
                                               nor effect to keep up the
                                               morale of their world
                                               policemen in Vietnam.
161.
Briefing in Korat; pilots leave room           After briefing: prepare for
                                               the next bombing mission.
                                               This is their routine:
162.
Pilots eating                                  Eating  -
163.
Sleeping pilot                                 Sleeping  -
164.
Nightclub scene                                Nightlifing  -
165.
Bomb explosion                                 Bombing  -
166.
Alvarez declares           X:                  Did you have the opportunity
                                               to go on leave from this
                                               aircraft carrier? Were you
                                               ever in Saigon or have you
                                               seen Hong Kong?
                           Alvarez:            Yes, I've been to Hong Kong
                                               before, yes.
                           X:                  You spent your leave there,
                                               is that right?
                           Alvarez:            Oh we, I, yes.
                           X:                  Is there something special
                                               that you can recall about
                                               this?
                           Alvarez:            Oh, Hong Kong is a very nice
                                               place, very nice.
167.
Hong Kong:                 Commentary:         "Very nice". Hong Kong.
American                                       front-American line
in a tub                                       vacationer in medical bath
with two                                       for rehabilitation of his
girls                                          physical strength. 
168.
Ringsdorf declares         X:                  Lieutenant Ringsdorf, were
                                               you terribily hard-hit by the
                                               fact that suddenly you were
                                               torn out of your previous way
                                               of life and had to begin the
                                               life of a prisoner? Did this
                                               surprise you very much?
                           Ringsdorf:          Yes it did. It came as a
                                               shock all of a sudden. It was
                                               quite a change, but I'm
                                               pretty well accustomed to it
                                               now. I think it would be a
                                               change for anyone to go
                                               through that.
                           X:                  Did you ever have any idea
                                               you could be shot down over
                                               the territory of the
                                               Democratic Republic of
                                               Vietnam, or did you never
                                               consider this?
                           Ringsdorf:          Well, I, I more or less did
                                               not think about it. I was
                                               always the type, ah, you
                                               know, they won't hit me, so
                                               it come pretty much as a
                                               shock.
169.
Pilots waiting at          Commentary:         These air pirates in Da Nang
Da Nang Air Base                               still have their shock
                                               waiting for them. Among them
                                               not long ago was also  -
170.
Torkelson declares                             First Lieutenant Torkelson.
                           X:                  What was said at the base
                                               when someone
                                               failed to return?
                           Torkelson:          Well, there was no official
                                               word from anybody, from any
                                               of our commanders or
                                               anything. Of course we all
                                               felt bad, but this is part of
                                               being in the military and
                                               it's part of the risk that
                                               you take.
                           X:                  What would you say if you now
                                               had the opportunity to speak
                                               to your buddies who
                                               are still in Da Nang?
                           Torkelson:
                           X:                  I mean your personal thoughts
                                               about this war which took you
                                               to captivity.
                           Torkelson:          Oh, as a prisoner of war I
                                               would tell them that I have
                                               been treated very well since
                                               I came here, I have been
                                               given adequate food,
                                               medical attention, I haven't
                                               been punished or tortured or
                                               brainwashed. I have been
                                               given good shelter and
                                               companionship.
171.
N Nang: 
Pilots playing cards       Commentary:         Pilots playing cards before
                                               their mission.
Turn fade:                                     Pilots playing cards after
Prisoners playing cards                        their mission.
173.
Risner declares            X:                  Colonel, you are the highest
                                               ranking officer we have met
                                               here. You too should use this
                                               opportunity and speak a few
                                               words to your buddies.
                           Risner:             I would tell them first to
                                               consider, to find out all the
                                               information they could about
                                               what's going on, about all
                                               the facts, to remember their
                                               duty to God and their country
                                               and the, the precepts upon
                                               which our country was
                                               founded, which was liberty,
                                               and justice and equality and
                                               ask them to consider whether
                                               or not they are doing their
                                               best to preserve these
                                               things.
174.
Title of camp magazine     Commentary:         "New Runway"  -- That is the
                                               title of one of the camp
                                               magazines issued by the
                                               prisoners, of which Colonel
                                               Risner is a member. The
                                               prisoners think: the Air
                                               Force should go home, back to
                                               the USA
175.
Duart declares             X:                  Major Duart, if you now had
                                               the opportunity to speak to
                                               your buddies back at the air
                                               base from which you took off
                                               on your last mission and to
                                               let them know your opinion of
                                               this war what would you say?
                           Duart:              Well, first off, I would tell
                                               them who I could about my
                                               life here, to inform them
                                               that  although we are
                                               considered the very worst
                                               type of criminals by the DRV
                                               that our treatment is very
                                               good considering the charges
                                               against us and so forth. And
                                               I would also tell them that I
                                               am praying that they will not
                                               have to fly any more missions
                                               over this country, any more
                                               missions if possible. I hope
                                               that the bombing of this
                                               country will cease, because I
                                               see that as the only way that
                                               any negotiations that could
                                               end the whole war over here
                                               can ever start.
176.
Cartoon from camp          Commentary:         "What I am doing here?"
magazine
                                               A cartoon from the camp
                                               newspaper "New Runway".
177.
Hughes declares            X:                  Colonel Hughes, in your case
                                               we have gained the impression
                                               that you regret your flights
                                               against the DRV. Would you
                                               also say this to your buddies
                                               back at the base, if you
                                               could now speak to them?
                           Hughes:             I have found the people here
                                               in the Democratic Republic of
                                               Vietnam very humanitarian.
                                               They have cared for me, they
                                               have given me first aid,
                                               medical treatment and in a
                                               humanitarian way they are
                                               caring for my needs which is
                                               food, clothes and shelter. I
                                               would like to return to the
                                               United States because this
                                               would mean that the
                                               blood-letting by both
                                               Americans and the Vietnamese
                                               in the Far East would have
                                               terminated, and I hope that
                                               they will do their part to
                                               bring about a cessation to
                                               this quotation marks "bloody
                                               stale-mate".
178.
Abbott declares            X:                  Lieutenant Abbott, what would
                                               you say if your buddies from
                                               your base were in front of
                                               you right now?
                           Abbott:             Well, I would be kind of
                                               biased right now because I'm
                                               in a position where I'd like
                                               to be home and my idea is to
                                               stop bombing which I really
                                               essentially believe in. Now,
                                               however, what would I tell my
                                               buddies? I would say, do as
                                               you're told, do a good job,
                                               and I hope you'll never get
                                               captured and if there's any
                                               way that through your
                                               opinions you express ideas
                                               that you can, let's say, make
                                               with the way for negotiations
                                               to peace I would do so at any
                                               time.
179.
Da Nang:                   Author's            These people are still doing
Plane taxies for           commentary:         their "JOB", as they call it
take-off                                       with their astonishing
                                               terminology. And each
                                               take-off opens three
                                               possibilities for them:
                                                
180.
Pilot climbs out of cockpit                    Return   --
181.
Dead pilot                                     Death   --
182.
Cartoon from camp                              or Hanoi Hilton.
magazine.
Pan                        Commentary:         As a plane goes down in smoke
                                               behind the mountain a "flying
                                               ace" floats down to earth
                                               by parachute. "S.O.L."   --
                                               a cartoon from the camp
                                               magazine "New Runway".
183.
Thorsness declares         X:                  Have you been able to learn a
                                               few words of Vietnamese
                                               during your presence here in
                                               the Democratic Republic of
                                               Vietnam?
                           Thorsness:          No, I probably know three of
                                               four words is all of, of
                                               Vietnamese. I would like to
                                               learn the language as long as
                                               I am here. It would be nice,
                                               nice to know the Vietnamese
                                               language.
                           X:                  What are the three or four
                                               words that you know?
                           Thorsness:          I know  water', I think,
                                               that's "muk" and cigarettes'
                                               is "chok'a" and  thank you',
                                               I believe is "komen", and
                                               that's about the extent of my
                                               Vietnamese vocabulary.
184.
Ringsdorf declares         X:                  Can you speak any Vietnamese
                                               words?
                           Ringsdorf:          Oh, not very many, no.
                                               Just....I really can't think
                                               at the moment "Nuk"  -
                                               water'. "Tekla" is cigarette.
                                               I believe that's about all.
                           X:                  In any case, only words
                                               concerning your
                                               very personal needs?
                           Ringsdorf:          That's true, yes.
                           X:                  Do you know which American
                                               words the Vietnamese learn?
                           Ringsdorf:          Words like "Hands up !"
                                               "Surrender or die!", "Stand
                                               up!, "Sit down!"   I've
                                               learned a new one: The other
                                               night I was sleeping
                                               without my net, mosquito net.
                                               The guard said: "mosquito".
                                               So that's one I found out
                                               that they do know.
185.
Alvarez declares           Alvarez:            Yes.  I am hungry' means
                                               "dey-dey". "Dey-hat" means  I
                                               am thiersty'.  "Nuk"  --
                                               water'; "comb"  --  rice';
                                               "dey-on" means I'm sick'.
                                               "Com-on"  -- thank you'.
     
                           X:                  I notice a certain difference
                                               between the words you have
                                               learned the past three years
                                               and those the Vietnamese
                                               people learn in preparation
                                               for contact with American
                                               intruders.
186.
Militia unit learns        Original            s--top --
English, close-up          sound               stop  --
                                               sitop  --
                           Author's
                           commentary:         Stop!  - The Vietnamese find
                                               it difficult to learn foreign
                                               combinations of sounds.
                                               However: they are understood.
187.
Captured pilot is          Original            Hands up!
taken way                  sound
188.
Militia man                                    Hands up!
189. 
Pilot on ground                                -   Music   -
190.
Militia group                                  Hands up!
                                               Hands up!
191.
Pilot raises hands                             -   Music   -
192.
Militia woman.                                 Surrender, not die!
Militia group shouts in chorus
193.
Stratton sweeps yard       Author's            Surrender, not die!
                           commentary:
194.
Printed title                                  -   Music   -
superimposed                                   PILOTS IN PYJAMAS
on Stratton                                    2   Hilton Hanoi
                                               A film by
                                               Heynowski & Scheumann
                                               Camera:
                                               Hans Leupold
                                               Gerhard Munch
                                               Peter Hellmich
                                               Still photos:
                                               Thomas Wischnewski
                                               Special effects:
                                               Herst Denth
                                               Interpreter:
                                               Perry Friedman
                                               Editors:
                                               Gert Prokop
                                               Peter Peterson
                                               Production Managers:
                                               Walter Martsch
                                               Jochen Steff
                                               Sound:
                                               Hans-Jurgen Mittag
                                               Music:
                                               Reiner Brodemeyer
                                               Commissioned by the Deutscher
                                               Fernschfunk    and produced
                                               in the DEFA-Studio fur
                                               Wochenschau and
                                               Dokumentarfilme and in the
                                               DEFA-Studio Fur
                                               Synchrenisation

                          PILOTS IN PYJAMAS
                          Part   III
                          All in a Day's Work  
                          Heynowski & Scheumann
1.                                             THE PRODUCERS OF THIS FILM
                                               EXTEND PARTICULAR THANKS TO
                                               THE COMRADES OF THE
                                               VIETNAMESE PEOPLE'S ARMY AND
                                               THE FILM STUDIOS IN HANOI FOR
                                               THEIR COMRADELY ASSISTANCE!
2.                                             THE QUESTIONS IN THE
                                               INTERVIEWS WITH THE US AIR
                                               FORCE OFFICERS
                                               WERE ASKED IN GERMAN AND
                                               TRANSLATED SIMULTANEOUSLY.
                                               THEY WERE DUBBED FOR THE
                                               ENGLISH VERSION OF THE FILM.
2.
Vietnamese                                    -   Music   -
children look at
camera                   Author's             Children in Vietnam.
                         Commentary:          Are they still laughing today?
                                              We do not know.  We filmed
                                              these scenes in a Hanoi
                                              street, which in the meantime
                                              has been bombed.
3.
U.S. pilot with oxygen                         -   Music   -
mask in cockpit                         
Printed title                                  DEFA-Gruppe Heynowski & Scheumann
a.
Pilot closes
cockpit 
Printed title                                  PILOTS
b.
Turn fade-in U.S. pilot in
prison clothing walking
down path
Printed title                                  IN PYJAMAS
4.
Turn fade--in 
Fuse put on bomb                                3
Printed title                                   THE JOB
5.
Risner declares:           X:                  Colonel Risner, which types
                                               of bombs and other weapons
                                               did you carry on board your
                                               Thunderchief during missions?
                           Risner:             Oh, we had bombs and rockets
                                               and ah, had a cannon on board
                                               as well and, ah, sometimes
                                               carried missiles?
6.
Hughes declares:           X:                  Colonel Hughes, which weapons
                                               were on your Thunderchief and
                                               which bomb loads did you
                                               carry on your mission to the
                                               DRV?
                           Hughes:             Yes. We have the twenty
                                               millimetre cannon or gun in
                                               the nose of the aircraft and
                                               then we have bombracks on
                                               both inboard, outboard of the
                                               wings and also on the center
                                               line or on the belly. Ah, you
                                               can carry on these any number
                                               of types of ordnaances. My
                                               training and capability was
                                               limited, to  ?  3,000 lb
                                               bombs, 750 lb bombs, although
                                               people in the squadron did
                                               carry the CBU. Ah, this is
                                               about the limit of my
                                               knowledge.
7.
Shively declares:          Shively:            We had a twenty millimetre
                                               cannon which we always had
                                               loaded and the we had
                                               various bomb-loads that we
                                               would carry depending
                                               on the targets. Sometimes we
                                               would carry 500 lb bombs,
                                               sometimes 750 lb bombs,
                                               sometimes 1000 lb bombs, and
                                               other times 3000 lb bombs as
                                               well as CBU and what they
                                               call a shrike missile.
8.
Thorsness declares:        Thorsness:          Gun system?
                           X:                  Yes.
                           Thorsness:          Oh, it was the Gatling gun,
                                               it's a rotating
                                               barrel gun.
                           X:                  And what type of bombs and
                                               explosives did
                                               you carry when you took off
                                               on a flight?
                           Thorsness:          Well, the airplane's capable
                                               of carrying many types of
                                               bombs, but generally just the
                                               standard high-explosive
                                               bombs, that have been used
                                               since World War Two.
                           X:                  I'd like to know their
                                               weight.
                           Thorsness:          Oh, generally 750 lb bombs.
                           X:                  But you can carry heavier
                                               bombs, is that correct?
                           Thorsness:          Yes, there are 1000 lb bombs,
                                               2000 lb bombs, same bombs
                                               they've used since World War
                                               Two.
9.
Destroyed German           Commentary:         During the Second World War
cities, air views                              planes of the American Air
                                               Force dropped a total of
                                               641,000 tons of bombs on
                                               Germany.
                                   
                                               641,000 tons of bombs  - that
                                               is the experience for the
                                               German viewer.
10.
Large-caliber bomb                             This American 3,000 pounder
in Hanoi Army Museum,                          is part of the total of over
child in front of it, moves                    800,000 tons of bombs which
to side                                        American aircraft have
                                               already dropped on The
                                               Democratic Republic of
                                               Vietnam.  If the bombs
                                               dropped are brought into
                                               relation with the area of the
                                               former German Reich
                                               and that of North Vietnam, we
                                               have the following:
                                               The American air war against
                                               the Democratic Republic of
                                               Vietnam is more than five
                                               times greater.
11.
Risner declares:           X:                  Colonel Risner, as a father
                                               you are justly proud of your
                                               five sons. Do you see any
                                               qualitative difference
                                               between your children
                                               and for example, the children
                                               here in North Vietnam?
                           Risner:             No, to me, and I am
                                               absolutely sincere on
                                               this, there is no difference
                                               in my children and the
                                               children of any other people
                                               in the world.
12.
Funeral scene              Commentary:         These rows of graves--are
                                               graves of children. The
                                               victims of one single flight,
                                               one single bombing run -
                                               which struck school children
                                               during classes.
13.
Ringsdorf declares:        X:                  Lieutenant Ringsdorf, you
                                               have told us that your
                                               girlfriend is waiting for you
                                               in the United States. Is she
                                               a beautiful girl?
                           Ringsdorf:          Very nice looking, yes.
14.
Photos:                    Commentary:         20 year-old Tran Thi Mui,
Young Vietnamese girl                          a worker in Haiphong; a
alive and as victim                            beautiful healthy woman. This
                                               is what was left of her.
15.
Abbott declares:           Abbott:             My family is taken care of
                                               really well and I have a
                                               beautiful wife and hope to
                                               have some children some day.
16.
Photo of burnt foetus      Commentary:         Mrs Nien lost this
                                               5-months-old foetus during an
                                               air-raid on the Hanoi
                                               residential district of Phuc
                                               Than.
17.
Hubbard declares:          X:                  Do you have in your personal
                                               possession pictures of your
                                               wife and son?
                           Hubbard:            Yes, sir, the first letter I
                                               got from my wife had pictures
                                               of her and my little boy.
18.
Photos of Hubbard          Commentary:         Mrs. Beverly Hubbard. Her
family                                         son Dave.
19.
Fade over to burnt                             And this is Mrs Nguyen Thi
and child                                      Ky, 25-years-Vietnamese
                                               mother old, and her
                                               4-year-old son.
20.
Hughes declares:           X:                  When you were still in the
                                               United States, did you ever
                                               feel threatened in any manner
                                               by the Vietnamese people?
                           Hughes:             No, sir. No, sir.
21.
Thunderchief during        Commentary:         In spite of this, Lieutenant
take-off                                       Colonel Hughes took off and
                                               flew his Thunderchief on 44
                                               missions to drop bombs and
                                               fire rockets on the
                                               Democratic Republic of
                                               Vietnam.
22.
Hughes declares:           X:                  Tell us what you bombed.
                           Hughes:             Yes. All but six of them were
                                               in what we call the southern
                                               packages, this would be out
                                               of the Hanoi complex.
                                               Six of them were in the Hanoi
                                               comples. Excluding the Hanoi
                                               area, we would search out
                                               targets of opportunity, ah,
                                               this is south of Hanoi. They
                                               would be convoys of trucks,
                                               any sort of surface
                                               transportation, boats,
                                               trucks, and what have you. We
                                               would try to search out
                                               storage areas, parkways or
                                               hidden routes where trucks
                                               might park during the day.
23.
Risner declares:           Risner:             It was called armed
                                               reconnaissance. Armed
                                               reconnaissance looking for
                                               trucks, yes. 24. Trucks
                                               camouflaged
                           Commentary:         Every vehicle must be
                                               camouflaged. In the against
                                               aerial view Total war of the
                                               USA against the DRV
                                               everything that moves on the
                                               ground is considered to be a
                                               "military target," -- even
                                               if it is only the transport
                                               of provisions for the
                                               nearby-town.
25.
Hubbard declares:          X:                  Do you see any connection
                                               between your reconnaissance
                                               and the fact that other
                                               aircraft flew over North
                                               Vietnam with weapons on
                                               board?
                           Hubbard:            Well, we all, we're all
26.
Burning house                                  doing the same job.
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