WARNER, JAMES HOWIE
Name: James Howie Warner Rank/Branch: O2/United States Marine Corps/Back-seater Unit: VMFA 323 Date of Birth: 26 February 1941 Home City of Record: Ypisalanti MI Date of Loss: 13 October 67 Country of Loss: North Vietnam Loss Coordinates: 170300 North 1070400 East Status (in 1973): Returnee Category: Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: F4B, tail #150477 Refno: #0860
Other Personnel in Incident: Edison Miller, returnee, pilot
Source: Compiled by P.O.W. NETWORK from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews, personal note from James Warner. Updated 2008.
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JAMES HOWIE WARNER Captain - United States Marine Corps Shot Down: October 13, 1967 Released: March 14, 1973
I was born in Ypsilanti, Michigan on 26 February 1941. I have two sisters, both younger than myself.
I attended Eastern Michigan University but did not graduate before joining the service in 1964. I was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the Marine Corps in 1966 when I received my wings as a Naval Flight Officer.
I was sent to the Marine Corps Air Station at Beaufort, South Carolina for further training before being sent to Chu Lai in the Republic of Vietnam in February of 1967. In October of that year I was shot down in North Vietnam and taken prisoner.
I have left the Marines in order to continue my education, as I would like to attend law school after completing my undergraduate degree.
Among Warner's awards and decorations is the Silver Star. ==============================
The Honorable James Warner and his wife Judy reside in Maryland. They have 3 children and 2 grandchildren. He enjoys gardening, hunting and shooting. He has served as a former Senior White House Domestic Policy Advisor.
For 5 months 'I stayed in the box' By James H. Warner June 29, 2005
As a Marine Corps officer, I spent five years and five months in a prisoner of war camp in North Vietnam. I believe this gives me a benchmark against which to measure the treatment which Sen. Richard Durbin, Illinois Democrat, complained of at the Camp of Detention for Islamo-fascists at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The senator's argument is silly. If he believes what he has said his judgment is so poor that his countrymen, assuming, of course, that he considers us his countrymen, have no reason not to dismiss him as a witless boob. On the other hand, if he does not believe what he said, the other members of the Senate may wish to consider censure.
Consider nutrition. I have severe peripheral neuropathy in both legs as a residual of beriberi. I am fortunate. Some of my comrades suffer partial blindness or ischemic heart disease as a result of beriberi, a degenerate disease of peripheral nerves caused by a lack of thiamin, vitamin B-1. It is easily treated but is extremely painful.
Did Mr. Durbin say that some of the Islamo-fascist prisoners are suffering from beriberi? Actually, the diet enjoyed by the prisoners seems to be healthy. I saw the menu that Rep. Duncan Hunter presented a few days ago. It looks as though the food given the detainees at Guantanamo is wholesome, nutritious and appealing. I would be curious to hear Mr. Durbin explain how orange glazed chicken and rice pilaf can be compared to moldy bread laced with rat droppings.
In May 1969, I was taken out for interrogation on suspicion of planning an escape. I was forced to remain awake for long periods of time -- three weeks on one occasion.
On the first of June, I was put in a cement box with a steel door, which sat out in the tropical summer sun. There, I was put in leg irons which were then wired to a small stool. In this position I could neither sit nor stand comfortably. Within 10 days, every muscle in my body was in pain (here began a shoulder injury which is now inoperable). The heat was almost beyond bearing. My feet had swollen, literally, to the size of footballs. I cannot describe the pain. When they took the leg irons off, they had to actually dig them out of the swollen flesh. It was five days before I could walk, because the weight of the leg irons on my Achilles tendons had paralyzed them and hamstrung me. I stayed in the box from June 1 until Nov. 10, 1969. While in the box, I lost at least 30 pounds. I would be curious to hear Mr. Durbin explain how this compares with having a female invade my private space, and whether a box in which the heat nearly killed me is the same as turning up the air conditioning.
The detainees at Guantanamo receive new Korans and prayer rugs, and the guards are instructed not to disturb the inmates' prayers. Compare this with my experience in February 1971, when I watched as armed men dragged from our cell, successively, four of my cell mates after having led us in the Lord's Prayer. Their prayers were in defiance of a January 1971 regulation in which the Communists forbade any religious observances in our cells. Does Mr. Durbin somehow argue that our behavior is the equivalent of the behavior of the Communists?
Actually, I was one of the lucky ones. At another camp, during the time I was being interrogated in the summer of 1969, one man was tortured to death and several were severely beaten. In fact, according to Headquarters Marine Corps, 20 percent of my fellow Marines failed to survive captivity. Have 20 percent of the Islamo-fascists failed to survive Guantanamo?
The argument that detainees at Guantanamo are being treated badly is specious and silly. In the eyes of normal Americans, Democrats believe this argument because, as Jeanne Kirkpatrick said 20 years ago, they "always blame America first." This contributes to the increasing suspicion, in red states, a problem that Democrats are aware of and are trying to counter, that Democrats cannot be trusted with our national security. Only the Democrats can change this perception, most recently articulated by White House adviser Karl Rove. The ball is in their court and I am certain there are steps that they can take to change this perception, but making silly arguments about imaginary bad treatment of enemy detainees is not a move in the right direction.
James H. Warner is corporate counsel practicing intellectual property law in Northern Virginia. He served as domestic policy adviser during the second Reagan administration.
Tony Blankey's column will appear tomorrow. ===========================